The Crucifixion Narrative for Goys vs. the Crucifixion Narrative Which the Rabbis Maintain Amongst Themselves

In the depictions of the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ intended for Goys, the Romans and Pilate are made to be responsible, but among themselves Orthodox "Jews" fully take responsibility for the Crucifixion, even exonerating the Romans completely.

Compare the BBC mockery of the Gospel titled "The Passion" with the Talmudic account of the Crucifixion:

The Crucifixion story for Goys:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=535748&in_page_id=1773

The Crucifixion account which the rabbis maintain amongst themselves:

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/wire1.html

Far from being an esoteric teaching of rabbinic Judaism, the willing acceptance for responsibility for the Crucifixion of Jesus is openly manifested in times and places where Orthodox Judaic persons have dominance. It is not uncommon to hear differing variations of the insulting threat, "Take your Jesus down from the cross and we'll crucify him again," or, "If Jesus comes back we'll kill him again," or, "We killed Jesus and we'll kill you too."

Evidence of this hateful tradition can be seen at the links below:

http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/02/we-killed-jesus-and-well-kill-you-too.html

Also see:

http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/02/effects-of-alcohol-and-judaism.html

A fine basis for "reconciliation," no?

St. Kilians Noahide Cathedral

This is an abomination

A huge menorah at the entrance to St Kilians Cathedral, Würzburg , Germany

How Wisconsin Bishop Listecki and His Flock Observe Advent

What better way to prepare oneself worthily to celebrate the anniversary of the Lord's coming into the world as the incarnate God than to join those whose tradition viciously mocks the incarnate God:

Bishop Jerome Listecki, right, lights a Menorah along with Rabbi Saul Prombaum, left center, and David and Betty Hammes at the Congregation Sons of Abraham of the first night of Hanukkah. Erik Daily

Local Catholics, Jews unite at opening Hanukkah service
By JOE ORSO | La Crosse Tribune
Wednesday, December 05, 2007

Two days after Catholics began their Advent season, the local Jewish congregation began Hanukkah with an interfaith first for the Coulee Region.

Bishop Jerome Listecki, head of the Diocese of La Crosse, addressed about 50 people at Congregation Sons of Abraham, making him the first Catholic bishop to speak at the synagogue.

“I am here with you this evening as a friend,” Listecki said, wearing a violet zuchetto that resembled the yarmulkes worn on the heads of Rabbi Saul Prombaum and others gathered. “In that friendship, I share in the confidence that together we might walk in a rededication to our freedom and mutual respect directed by the light that guides our path.”

The event wasn’t the beginning of the relationship between local Jews and Catholics.

In 1998, members of the synagogue, a Catholic parish and United Church of Christ congregation traveled together to Israel ...

The joint celebration was coordinated by Monsignor Bernard McGarty, a visiting scholar of ecumenical studies at Viterbo University, who also attended.

Prombaum, head of the Jewish congregation, led the people in Hebrew, English and silent prayers during the first part of the service.

“Praised are you, Adonai our God, who rules the universe, your word bringing the evening dusk,” the congregation said as Listecki, sitting in the fourth pew, prayed along. “You create day and night, rolling light away from darkness and darkness away from light.”

At the climax of the event, as snow continued to fall outside, Prombaum invited Listecki to light the center candles of four Hanukkah menorahs.

Then Listecki, Prombaum and David and Betty Hammes, a Catholic couple who in January will have been neighbors of the synagogue for 50 years, used the central candles to light the first of the eight Hanukkah candles on the four menorahs.

Prombaum also recognized the Hammeses with a brass leaf on the synagogue’s Tree of Life, and said they live by Leviticus 19:18, which includes the command to love your neighbor as yourself.

“We love you as our neighbors,” Prombaum said to them.

After Listecki’s address, he took questions, including one on the Catholic church’s position on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Listecki said the Vatican has tried to maintain itself as an arbiter and a broker of peace.

During his remarks to the congregation, Listecki said the Jewish-Catholic dialogue began in his life with a Jewish friend of his family, who read the Mourner’s Kaddish, a Jewish prayer, at his father’s wake.

And he referred to a Vatican II document he called a blueprint for inter-religious dialogue for the church in the world.

“Words on paper take time to develop and cut through the generations of inaccuracies and errors,” he said, referring to the document, Nostra Aetate. “But friendships are created in the shared experiences of life amid the struggles of our times.”

http://www.lacrossetribune.com/articles/2007/12/05/news/00lead.txt

Lustiger's Alchemical Funeral Update

Lustiger’s grand-nephew, Jonas Moses Lustiger, read a psalm in Hebrew and French, and placed a bowl of earth gathered from Jewish and Christian sites in the Holy Land.

A Jewish Cardinal? Oy Vey!

Joan Z. Shore

Yesterday, I attended the funeral service held for Cardinal Jean-Marie Lustiger at Notre-Dame in Paris.

It was unlike any funeral I've ever attended, and surely unlike any service ever held at this cathedral in its 700 years of existence. I suppose it came as close to ecumenism as one can expect in a Catholic country ...

... the extraordinary break from tradition was the presence of several dozen prominent members of France's Jewish community, seated outside the cathedral to hear the Kaddish -- the Jewish prayer for the dead -- that was intoned before the service began. Lustiger's cousin and young grand-nephew from Israel brought soil from two holy sites to be placed in the coffin -- a specific wish of the Cardinal's.

Inside the cathedral a special area was reserved in the front rows for "the Jewish Community." France's leading Reform rabbi, Daniel Fahri, was there with his wife, but no Conservative or Orthodox rabbi attended. "They wouldn't step foot in here," a friend confided to me ...

Thanks in large part to Lustiger's insistence, the Carmelite convent that was rather indecently built at Auschwitz in 1984 was removed.

"I was born Jewish, and so I remain," Lustiger once proclaimed in an interview, "even if that is unacceptable to many." While Catholics seem to accept this with a certain ironic pride, Jews are divided. A former chief rabbi of Paris once remarked that "a Jew becoming a Christian....is turning his back on it" ...

He was known to chat in Yiddish to close Jewish friends.

And once, after hearing him speak at a press luncheon, I went up to thank him and boldly said, You know, you would have made a good rabbi, too!

And he laughed. ("A Jewish Cardinal? Oy Vey!", Joan Z. Shore, August 11, 2007)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joan-z-shore/a-jewish-cardinal-oy-vey_b_60066.html

Former ADL Director, Rabbi Eugene Korn's New Appointment at Sacred Heart University

Local rabbi new head of interfaith center

By Jane Calem Rosen

As commutes go, his daily trip to and from his home in Bergenfield to his job in Fairfield, Conn. isn’t too bad, said Rabbi Dr. Eugene Korn, the new executive director of the Center for Christian-Jewish Understanding at Sacred Heart University.

But his travels from ordination by the Israeli rabbinate in 2003 to head up the 15-year-old institution established as the Center for Christian-Jewish Understanding to nurture ties between the Jewish people and the Catholic Church have perhaps been more extensive. Korn’s promotion from associate executive director of the center, a post he took in January, was announced following the retirement on July 1 of its long-time leader, Rabbi Joseph Ehrenkranz, an Orthodox rabbi from Stamford, Conn. (The center was co-founded with a mandate from Dr. Anthony Cernera, SHU’s president, by Ehrenkranz and Rabbi Jack Bemporad, a Reform rabbi from Englewood who later began the Center for Interreligious Understanding in Carlstadt. The late philanthropist Russell Berrie was the first chairman of the board of the SHU center.)

In a recent telephone interview from his SHU office, Korn said that he entered the field of interfaith relations almost accidentally. With a bachelor’s degree in philosophy and mathematics from Yeshiva University and a doctorate in moral philosophy from Columbia University, Korn was on a fellowship at the Shalom Hartman Institute in Jerusalem, which he described as "the foremost Jewish think tank in the world." In a theology seminar with Dr. Asher Finkel, the head of Jewish-Christian studies at Seton Hall University in South Orange, he met Christian seminarians living in the Jewish state who believed they belonged in the land of the Bible, home to Jesus.

"I was very impressed by their spiritual depth, and became interested in theology and the spiritual issues we have in common and how to sort out the difficulties in our relationship over the years," he said.

Korn’s participation in that seminar led to his appointment back in the United States as adjunct professor of Jewish thought at Seton Hall. At the same time, he worked as director of Jewish affairs at the American Jewish Congress, handling relations with top church officials in the United States and Europe. Among his chief accomplishments there, he said, was that "we really dealt a mortal blow in the United States to the divestment campaign against companies doing business with Israel, generated by a number of liberal churches, universities, and labor unions."

Discussions he led with "friends in the liberal churches," he said, led to the mounting of a counter campaign to the "radical left-wing ideologues hostile to Israel." As a result, the national Presbyterian Church rescinded a divestment resolution and "we were also successful in influencing the Episcopalian and Lutheran churches in the U.S. not to go down that route," he said.

At the CCJU, Korn — who is also the editor of Meorot: A Forum for Modern Orthodox Discourse, formerly the Edah Journal — hopes to build on the successes of his predecessor as well as launch initiatives in education and interfaith relations. Relations with the Vatican and bishops within the American Catholic Church grew significantly under Ehrenkranz’s direction, said Korn, noting, "We’re going to intensify those areas and move into new areas."

According to an SHU press release, that vision encompasses three distinct institutes, one focusing on religious education to raise awareness among Jews and Christians of the recent changes in Christian theology regarding the Jewish people and Jewish scripture; the second to pursue scholarly research on values, pluralism, and theology; and the third to deepen the relationship between the Catholic Church and the Jewish people in North America and in Israel.

Specifically, in the area of religious education, SHU will establish an academic chair in September 2008 in Jewish-Christian relations. Korn will be the chair’s occupant and teach at SHU, he said.

Also in the works is a partnership between a major Catholic institution in Rome and a major Jewish institution in Jerusalem. Korn declined to name these, saying that discussions are at a sensitive stage, but added that "a number of people are all quite interested and that it’s critically important to bring together the best minds of both communities."

Just back from a trip to Rome, Monaco, and Israel, where he spoke on issues related to Mideast peace and Jewish-Christian relations, Korn said, "Interestingly, I found people associated with the Office of the Chief Rabbinate in Israel enormously receptive to deepening relations on official levels and in academic institutions with the Catholic Church. All understand that it is strategically important [for political and religious reasons] for Israel and for the Jewish people to cultivate those relations."

Common religious concerns, he said, include the sanctity of human life and how to secure the place of religion in the modern world. Unlike interfaith relations more than half a century ago that were driven by people who sought to minimize religious and cultural differences, today’s interfaith activists are deeply religious, Korn observed.

On that front, therefore, Korn has organized a series of international conferences with philosophers, theologians, and religious leaders to explore pluralism, tolerance, religious fanaticism, and the appropriate boundaries of religious communities. "Philosophers have struggled with the foundations for tolerance and what are its legitimate limits, particularly for a religious community that believes in a view of God as absolute," he said. "Intolerance grows from religious convictions, but we need to be both tolerant and recognize the legitimacy of the other. For many years, Christians couldn’t see the image of God in the Jewish people, but that has changed."

The first conference was held on the SHU campus and the second is planned for October in Los Angeles, facilitated by the board of rabbis of Southern California and Roman Catholic institutions and seminaries there. Subsequent conferences will take place in Germany and Israel. The series will culminate in the publication of a book, said Korn.

To enhance the national and international stature of the CCJU, in September Korn will take three Orthodox rabbis from the United States — including the scholar Irving "Yitz" Greenberg — six Roman Catholic bishops, and a cardinal to Auschwitz for three days, followed by a three-day visit to the Vatican. The group will have an audience with Pope Benedict XVI and meet with Cardinal Walter Kasper, head of the Vatican office responsible for relations with Jews.

That undertaking, he noted, is reflective of the "revolution" over the past six decades in theological thinking and action by the leadership of the Roman Catholic Church that takes into account Jewish concerns.

Korn concluded, "It is not sheer coincidence that I have found myself in these places. I feel blessed and feel myself growing as an Orthodox Jew in response to my work." (New Jersey Jewish Standard, August 10, 2007)

http://www.jstandard.com/articles/3037/1/Local-rabbi-new-head-of-interfaith-center

Benedict at Auschwitz

Bowing before the idol of Holocaustolatry

Video HERE

"... the shock of the Shoah has put the whole question under a new light ... Can Christians, after all that has happened, still claim in good conscience to be the legitimate heirs of Israel's Bible? Have they the right to propose a Christian interpretation of this Bible, or should they not instead, respectfully and humbly, renounce any claim that, in the light of what has happened, must look like a usurpation?" (Joseph Ratzinger, The Jewish People and their Sacred Scripture in the Christian Bible May 24, 2001)

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/pcb_documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20020212_popolo-ebraico_en.html

Lustiger's NY Yeshiva Tour, Endorsement of Chabad Lubavitch as Religious Model

The cardinal [Jean-Marie Lustiger] cited three New York Jewish communities he visited last year "homogeneous in their spiritual and practical choices" as models for how religion can successfully integrate modernity ...

Asked later by The Jewish Week to which communities he was referring, Cardinal Lustiger said "Yeshiva University, the Jewish Theological Seminary and Lubavitch." (Eric J. Greenberg, The Jewish Week, Feb. 14, 2003)

Jean-Marie Lustiger and Rabbi Israel Singer

Rabbi Zevulun Charlop and Jean-Marie Lustiger in the library of Yeshiva University

Rabbi Zevulun Charlop and Walter Kasper with Talmud

Jean-Pierre Ricard of the Ecclesia Dei Commission which oversees all things related to the traditional Latin Mass with his elder brothers

Cardinals and rabbis hold hands

Cardinal Jean-Marie Lustiger, the Archbishop of Paris, recently organized an expedition that brought twelve Catholic scholars who were well versed in Hebrew and Judaic subjects to New York City. Hoping to gain an appreciation for Jewish institutes of advanced learning, Lustiger and his delegation visited several schools around the city, including the Jewish Theological Seminary, Hebrew Union College, and Yeshiva University.

The Commentator


Also see:

http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=7406&print=yes

http://www.lefigaro.fr/reportage/20060406.FIG000000009_calotte_et_kippa_ensemble_a_manhattan.html

Cardinal Jean-Pierre Ricard of Ecclesia Dei Commission Studying Talmud at NY Yeshiva

EDITOR'S NOTE: Ricard was raised to Cardinal only one day before this Jean-Marie Lustiger/World Jewish Congress organized event took place during Holy Week last year. Ricard stated, "I should have been in Rome ... The pope is to receive the new cardinals, but I wrote... him about this meeting in New York City, [and] he said, 'Of course you can go.'" Ricard is a leading member of the Ecclesia Dei Commission which oversees all things related to the traditional Latin Mass. He is also president of the French Catholic Bishops Committee for Relationship with the Jews.



Cardinal Ricard (top right) learns Tractate Berakoth with Cardinal Erdo (bottom left) and rabbinical student Sorin Rosen.

Babylonian Talmud tractate Berakoth, which Ricard and Erdo are shown studying, contains the Judaic racial supremacist teaching that non-Judaics have the status of asses (folio 58a). The prelates were said to be studying tractate Berakoth to learn why Judaics pray their benedictions ("Berakoth" means benedictions) three times daily. It should be noted that the benedictions which Orthodox Judaics are bound to pray three times daily contain a curse on Christians, Birkat ha-Minim HERE. Tractate Berakoth is where the "preparation of the gifts" of the Novus Ordo Mass originates (HERE and HERE) The news article which covered this event stated that the prelates and Judaics studied and prayed together as "brothers."




Cardinals, bishops, rabbinical students and others hold hands and sway while singing at the conclusion of (the day's) dialogue

The efffects of [Nostra Aetate] have been impressive for the Jewish and Catholic worlds. “Things have radically changed,” said the Archbishop of Lyon Philippe Barbarin ... “When I was a student I never imagined I would pray and study a page of the Talmud with Jewish students in a yeshiva in Brooklyn. Yet World Jewish Congress chairman Israel Singer invited me to do so and I accepted his invitation.”

http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=459

Also See:

Rabbis and "Catholic" Crypto-Rabbis Hold "Brotherhood" Fest and Study Talmud Together

Tridentine Judaism

For more on Israel Singer, co-organizer of the event, see:

There's no Racket Like the Shoah Racket

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