Pope Benedict's 'Noahide Law' Commission Mocks Victims of Talmudic Economics

Updated

The theme of this the 11^th meeting of the bilateral commission [of the Chief Rabbinate of Counterfeit Israel and the 'Holy' See's Commission for Religious Relations with 'The Jews'] was titled "Religious perspectives on the current financial crisis: vision for a just economic order" ... Papers on the theme were provided by Dr. Meir Tamari, former chief economist of the Bank of Israel ..."

Here are some relevant writings from Rabbi Dr. Meir Tamari, former chief economist of the Bank of Counterfeit Israel, whose 'vision' the Vatican has turned to for direction towards 'a just economic order':

All Jewish sources, however, show that Judaism does not see anything intrinsically wrong with lending money at interest. On the contrary, it is a perfectly normal and beneficial part of economic activity, like the supply of other forms of capital.” (Rabbi Meir Tamari, With All Your Possessions: Jewish Ethics and Economic Life, p. 167

Perhaps the best proof that [according to rabbinic Judaism] taking interest is not regarded as being evil per se, but rather only forbidden because the Torah said so, is the rule that while one may not take interest from other Jews, it is permitted in regard to non-Jews. (Rabbi Meir Tamari, The challenge of wealth: a Jewish perspective on earning and spending money)

"... it is essential to remember that there exist a religious obligation to make interest-free loans available to other Jews ... [however,] one may lend money at interest to non-Jews." (Rabbi Meir Tamari, In the marketplace: Jewish business ethics)

Financial economists may find Meir Tamari’s treatment of interest and profits rather unsatisfactory, and his treatment of Scripture and the Mishnah may also be seen as controversial. One interesting point is the distinction between financial dealings between Jews, where interest is not permissible, and between Jews and Gentiles where it is, the justification for this being in Deutronomy. Maimonides interpreted the Hebrew word tashikh, you may charge a foreigner interest, as you shall charge a gentile interest. It was this that justified Jews becoming involved in moneylending throughout medieval Europe and instrumental in the development of modern banking practice. While relations between Jews and Christians were kept on a business footing, those within the Jewish communities were based on exchanging favours and mutual trust in the absence of interest based transactions. This discriminatory treatment of Jews and Gentiles may be criticised by non-Jews, but it served to strengthen bonds within Judaism and the feeling of a common identity. (Rodney Wilson, "Comparitive Religious Thought on Economic Behavior and Financial Transactions," Journal of the Association of Christian Economists)

http://christian-economists.org.uk/jour_23.pdf

The masses of Jewish migrants from Eastern Europe in the 19th and 20th centuries had neither the assets for collateral nor the personal history of financial activity necessary for recourse to the banking systems of their new host societies. Their astonishing economic development would have been totally different to what actually materialized, were it not for the existence of Jewish free loan societies in every country. (Rabbi Meir Tamari, "'Both a Lender and a Borrower Be:' The Challenge of Money)

http://www.ouisrael.org/tidbits/detail/BOTH-A-LENDER-AND-A-BORROWER-BE-part-one-THE-CHALLENGE-OF-MONEY

The corollary is that the astonishing decline in wealth and increase in indebtedness of non-Judaic nations and individuals which has accompanied the astonishing "economic development" of East European 'Jews' would have been "totally different" if it had not been for predatory lending practices which rabbinic teaching readily permits against non-'Jews' as Rabbi Dr. Meir Tamari explains above.

The Bilateral Commission of the Chief Rabbinate of Counterfeit Israel and the 'Holy' See's Commission for Religious Relations with 'The Jews' has issued a statement addressing the present world financial catastrophe. This bilateral commission recognized the unbiblical, talmudic 'Noahide laws' in 2007 according to which, Christian 'idolators' (believers in the Divinity of Jesus Christ and Trinity) should be executed by decapitation.

If you believe that a joint Vatican-Chief Rabbinate of Counterfeit Israel plan for economic reform will bring about any godly change in events, there's a dead 'Messiah' in Brooklyn they probably could also sell you.

The rabbinic canon provides the rationalization for the kind of financial predation witnessed throughout the world today. Moreover, as Thomas Jefferson aptly noted, the rabbis' tradition is practically void and valueless as a reference for ethics and morality.

As readers of symbols we note that the seventh bilateral meeting rolled out the so-called 'Noahide laws' and the eleventh meeting rolls out a so-called 'ethical economic order.'

COMMISSION FOR RELIGIOUS RELATIONS WITH THE JEWS

BILATERAL COMMISSION MEETING
OF THE DELEGATIONS OF THE CHIEF RABBINATE OF ISRAEL AND
THE HOLY SEE’S COMMISSION
FOR RELIGIOUS RELATIONS WITH THE JEWS

(Rome, March 27-29, 2012; Nissan 4-6, 5772)

Joint Statement

1. The Jewish co-chair Rabbi Shear Yashuv Cohen opened the meeting, giving thanks to God for the historic transformation in Catholic-Jewish relations since the Second Vatican Council (1962-65) and for the establishment of the bilateral commission of the Chief Rabbinate of Israel and the Holy See, after the historic visit of Pope John Paul II to Israel.

Cardinal Peter Turkson, the new Catholic co-chair, responded paying tribute to his predecessor Cardinal Jorge Mejía and welcomed the delegations, in particular those who had just joined the bilateral commission. Cardinal Mejía together with Cardinal Cottier, as the former senior members of the Catholic delegation, accompanied by Cardinal Kurt Koch, President of the Holy See’s Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews, visited with the delegations and expressed their joy at the continuity of this work as a blessing for both communities and for humanity.

2. The theme of this the 11^th meeting of the bilateral commission was titled "Religious perspectives on the current financial crisis: vision for a just economic order". The special guest on the first evening was Prof. Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, President of the Vatican’s Istituto per le Opere di Religione, who provided an analysis of the causes of the financial crisis and shared thoughts on possible ways forward. Papers on the theme were provided by Dr. Meir Tamari, former chief economist of the Bank of Israel, and Prof. Stefano Zamagni from the Economic Science Department of the University of Bologna.

3. Following from the presentations and discussion, the following points were highlighted:-

While many factors contributed to the financial crisis, at its roots lies a crisis of moral values in which the importance of having, reflected in a culture of greed, eclipsed the importance of being; and where the value of truth reflected in honesty and transparency was sorely lacking in economic activity.

4. At the heart of Jewish and Catholic visions for a just economic order is the affirmation of the sovereignity and providence of the Creator of the world with whom all wealth originates and which is given to humankind as a gift for the common good.

5. Accordingly, the purpose of an economic order is to serve the wellbeing of society, affirming the human dignity of all people, each created in the Divine Image. While this concept of dignity affirms the value of the person, it is antithetical to egocentricity. Rather, it requires the promotion of the wellbeing of the individual in relation to community and society, emphasizing human obligations and responsibilities accordingly and thereby affirming human solidarity and fraternity.

This posits the obligation to guarantee certain basic human needs, such as the protection of life, sustenance, clothing, housing, health, education and employment.

Particular attention must therefore be given to the vulnerable – the poor, the orphan, the widow the sick and disabled; and the stranger, which in today’s society is particularly relevant to migrant and foreign workers – whose condition serves as a measure of the moral health of society or lack thereof, and the degree of solidarity within it.

6. Furthermore, just as the Divine gift of wealth places obligations upon the recipient in relation to those less fortunate materially; similarly countries with developed economies have the obligation to recognize their responsibilities and duties towards countries and societies in need – especially in this era of globalization.

7. Concepts highlighted for the promotion of a more just economic order included:

- the universal destination of the goods of the earth; a culture of "enough" that implies a degree of self-limitation and modesty; responsible stewardship; an ethical system of allocation of resources and priorities; and the critical importance of honesty, transparency, gratuitousness and accountability.

8. Just as the crisis has required partial remission of debts on national and international levels, there is a need to extend this to families and individuals for their economic self-rehabilitation.

9. The members of the bilateral commission underscored the role that the faith communities must play in contributing to a responsible economic order and the importance of their engagement by government, educational institutions, and the media, to this end.

10. In addition to the ethical wisdom drawn from our spiritual heritages, religious communities are an integral part of civil society, which must play a central role together with politics and business, in ensuring the subsidiarity necessary for a just social and economic order.

11. Furthermore the crisis has revealed the profound lack of the ethical component in economic thinking. Hence, it is imperative that institutes and academies of economic studies and policy formation include ethical training in their curricula, similar to that which has developed in recent years in the field of medical ethics; and also ethical counselling to decision makers on a national and international level.

12. The meeting concluded with prayer to the Source of all blessing that the words of the Psalmist will be fulfilled

"Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed (each other).
Truth shall spring out of the earth and righteousness shall look down from heaven.
Yea, the Lord shall give (that which is) good; and our land shall yield her increase.
Righteousness shall go before Him; and shall set (us) in the way of His steps"

(Ps 85,11-14).

Rome, March 29^th, 2012 – Nissan 6^th, 5772

Rabbi Shear Yashuv Cohen (Chairman of the Jewish Delegation)Rabbi David Rosen Rabbi Prof. Daniel Sperber Rabbi Prof. Avraham Steinberg Mr. Oded Wiener Msgr. Pier Francesco Fumagalli

Peter Cardinal Turkson (Chairman of the Jewish Delegation) Archbishop Elias Chacour Archbishop Antonio Franco Archbishop Bruno Forte Bishop Giacinto-Boulos Marcuzzo Msgr. Pier Francesco Fumagalli Fr. Pierbattista Pizzaballa O.F.M. Fr. Norbert J. Hofmann S.D.B.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/relations-jews-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_20120329_commissione-bilaterale_en.html

Also see:

Lloyd Blankfein Says He Is Doing "God's Work"

Deepening the Judeo-Supremacist/'Noahide' Servant Relationship

Rabbi She'ar-Yashuv Cohen

Rabbi David Rosen

Meet the Wall St. Rabbi/Goldman Sachs VP

The "Church Militant" With Rabbis in Command

The Pope's Guest Pharisee Lies to Synod

The below is an outright lie. There is no guarantee of equality for Christians or any non-Judaic citizens under Israeli law which Israel Shahak described as, "a weird mixture of advanced democracy and retrogressive discrimination, combined with clumsy attempts to hide the discriminatory reality." However, if Shahak was alive today, I believe his "advanced democracy" assessment would be tempered further by an acknowledgment of the ascendancy of racial supremacist Orthodox Judaism in the Israeli state.

According to Rabbi Rosen's stated standard (which he apparently intends to be applied only to Arab nations), Israeli society is sick.

“The degree to which Christians enjoy civil and religious rights and liberties testifies to the health or infirmity of the respective societies in the Middle East,” said Rosen, adding that In Israel Christians “enjoy full franchise and equality before the law.”

Rabbi David Rosen (R), International Director of Interreligious Affairs of the American Jewish Committee and the Heilbrunn Institute for International Interreligious Understanding, speaks during the synod for the Middle East bishops in the Paul VI Hall at the Vatican October 13, 2010. REUTERS/Osservatore Romano

Rabbi David Rosen only Jewish speaker at Vatican Special Synod on the Middle East

EJP - Oct 13, 2010

ROME (EJP)---Rabbi David Rosen, the American Jewish Committee’s international director of interreligious affairs, was Wednesday the only Jewish speaker at a two-week Vatican Special Synod of Catholic leaders on the Middle East.
In his speech, he outlined a Jewish perspective on the state of Christianity and Jewish-Christian relations in Israel.

While this is not the first time a rabbi adresses a Vatican Synod it is the first time a Jewish representative has been asked to address a topic of social and political concern and sensitivity, the AJC said.

Hailing the “blessed transformation” of the relationship between the two faiths over the past 50 years, Rosen stressed that the strongest Jewish-Christian relationships are in the United States.

“The U.S. boasts literally dozens of academic institutions for Christian-Jewish studies and relations, while there are perhaps only three in the rest of the world,” he said.

In contrast, a major hurdle to deepening mutual understanding is the lack of opportunities for Christian-Jewish interaction around the world.

“I confess to having been surprised to find Catholic clergy, and sometimes even hierarchy from some countries, not only ignorant about contemporary Judaism but often even about Nostra Aetate itself,” Rosen said.

At the same time, he noted what he called “widespread ignorance” about Christianity in the Jewish world, notably in Israel.

“Until recently most of Israeli society has been quite unaware of the profound changes in Catholic-Jewish relations,” said Rosen, though he acknowledged that “this situation has begun to alter significantly in the last decade.”

Rosen said the improvement was due firstly to Pope John Paul II’s visit in 2000, and, secondly, to the influx of Christians, part of the wave of immigrants from the former Soviet Union, that doubled the Christian population in Israel.

Initiatives have flourished with “dozens of bodies promoting interreligious encounter, dialogue and studies in Israel, and the Christian presence in these, which include Jews and Muslims in Israel, is disproportionate and highly significant,” said Rosen.

“The wellbeing of Christian communities in the Middle East is nothing less than a kind of barometer,” he said. “The degree to which Christians enjoy civil and religious rights and liberties testifies to the health or infirmity of the respective societies in the Middle East,” said Rosen, adding that In Israel Christians “enjoy full franchise and equality before the law.”

http://www.ejpress.org/article/week_at_a_glance_/46551

Pius XII, Bishop Williamson Media Controversies are Theatre for Peasants, No Impediment to 'Dialogue'

For all his insight, the author will not acknowledge that the rabbis bluff when they threaten to withdraw from 'dialogue'--the vehicle by which their nefarious goals against the Church are advanced--or that the rabbis' helpers in the establishment press have interests other than selling newspapers.

Exaggerations for Dubious Ends

Edward Pentin - NCR

Friday, January 22, 2010

After a week in which Pope Benedict XVI visited the Great Synagogue of Rome and the Vatican and the Rabbinate of Israel held their regular annual meeting, Catholic-Jewish relations are looking considerably healthy – much more so than it might appear in some of the mass media.

As mentioned in an earlier post, whatever the controversies affecting the dialogue, relations usually continue much as they did before, largely thanks – as the Holy Father noted in his synagogue address – to advances in dialogue emanating from the Second Vatican Council’s declaration Nostra Aetate.

Rabbi David Rosen, director of the American Jewish Committee’s Department for Interreligious Affairs, called the Pope’s visit to Rome’s synagogue “a genuine milestone, putting many fears and suspicions to rest and reinvigorating the historic transformation of this relationship in our times.” He noted what he called a warm, impressive and festive atmosphere which he said was a “public expression of already well established friendships between Catholic and Jewish leadership present.”

Of course, the well trodden controversies over Pius XII, Richard Williamson and the Good Friday prayer of the Traditional Latin Mass have, rightly or wrongly, been of real concern to many Jews. Yet their real impact on dialogue is actually minor. During this week’s bilateral commission between the Vatican and Rabbinate of Israel – a meeting that included a number of very senior Judaic and Church leaders – the dispute over Pius was never raised. More important were the areas the two faiths hold in common.

“These controversies are important for the mass media, but not for our dialogue,” said Father Norbert Hoffman, the Secretary of the Vatican Commission on Religious Relations with Judaism. ”We didn’t talk about the Pius matter at all during this [commission] meeting. Of course this issue exists but it doesn’t exist in the sense that the media think it would be on the table.” He added the final assessment of the delegation of the Chief Rabbinate was that the Pope’s visit to the synagogue was “very successful.”

Earlier this week, the [Judaic advocate of dungeon sentences for non-believers of "Holocaust" dogmas who is located in France], Bernard-Henri Lévy, denounced what he said were media caricatures of Benedict XVI and Pius XII in their dealings with Jews, saying their words and deeds belied their media portrayals.

All of which further points to what many have long suspected: that certain individuals and groups, not only within the mass media but elsewhere, are sadly exaggerating and exploiting Catholic-Jewish differences to suit their own ends, whether it be to sell newspapers or, more seriously, for a variety of nefarious goals directed against the Church.

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/exaggerations_for_dubious_ends/

Papal-Rabbinic Fraud at the Rome Synagogue January 2010

Pope Benedict XVI at the Synagogue of Rome, January 17, 2009 with Rabbis Riccardo Di Segni and Yashuv Cohen

On January 17, 2009 Benedict XVI took center stage in a spectacular media fraud in the synagogue of Rome calculated to: 1. make Christians believe that the Pharisaic/Talmudic/Kabbalistic tradition which Jesus warned His followers to beware of (Matt. 16;12) is of God 2. yoke Catholics to the followers of that anti-God tradition 3. exalt the idol of "The Holocaust" while ostensibly warning against idolatry 4. prop up an ideology rooted in the idolatry of men, race, and State while ostensibly warning against ideologies, rooted in the idolatry of man, race, and State. This hardly addresses the complexities of the multifaceted fraud which took place in that synagogue and was broadcast across the world. The text of this fraud can be read here:

Papal Address at Synagogue of Rome

Video here:

http://www.catholictv.com/shows/default.aspx?seriesID=57

Pictured above with Pope Benedict XVI is the Chief Rabbi of Rome, Rabbi Riccardo Di Segni who, like all Orthodox rabbis, is a peddler of the anti-Christian, racist, dual-covenant, Talmudic system of double-standards, the so called "Noahide Laws." Rabbi Di Segni also recently republished the Jesus Christ mocking, traditional Judaic tract, the "Toledoth Jeshu," under the misleading title, The Gospel of the Ghetto. With the help of many Catholic prelates and the pope himself, Rabbi DiSegni can confidently perpetrate the fraud that the "Toledoth Jeshu" is a product of Christian persecution, a lie which is refuted here:

The Ancient Origins of Blasphemous Israeli Comedy

Also pictured above with Benedict XVI is Israeli Chief Rabbinate delegate to the Holy See, Rabbi Shear Yashuv Cohen. Rabbi Yashuv Cohen is a cosigner of a joint Chief Rabbinate-Holy See document which fraudulently identifies the Talmudic "Noahide Laws" as biblical here:

Papal Commission Promotes Noahide Laws

Rabbi Shear Yashuv Cohen is a militant Zionist disciple of Rabbi Kook as documented here:

More on the Synod Rabbi

Also present but not shown in the picture above was Rabbi Papal Knight David Rosen, also a signer of the above mentioned "Noahide Law" document. One of Rabbi Rosen's anti-Gospel projects is getting Christians to have a positive view of Pharisees and Pharisaism as documented here:

Papal Rabbi-Knight David Rosen Wants to Change What Christians Believe About the Pharisees

Contrary to what the pope and the rabbis suggest, the blessings of Psalms 126 and 133 (Psalm 126 evidently chosen to make modern Zionism seem providential) do not apply to peddlers of Talmudism, Zionism, Holocaustolatry and the phony "Noahide Laws."

Beware the leaven of the Pharisees rising in Rome.

Rabbi David Rosen Honored by QEII

Queen Elizabeth Names AJC’s Rabbi David Rosen Commander of British Empire

January 3, 2010 – New York – Rabbi David Rosen, AJC’s International Director of Interreligious Affairs, has been awarded the Commander of the British Empire (CBE) by Queen Elizabeth II in her prestigious New Years honors list.

The CBE, one of Great Britain’s highest honors, was given to Rabbi Rosen in recognition of his interfaith relations work in the Middle East, and between the UK and Israel. He is the first Orthodox rabbi to receive the CBE.

“I feel very honored,” said the British-born Rabbi Rosen from his home in Jerusalem. “It’s not just a personal tribute but to all those before me and with me who work to promote a better world through deeper understanding and cooperation between religions.”

In addition to his role at AJC, where he also serves as Director of the Heilbrunn Institute for International Interreligious Understanding, Rabbi Rosen is an Honorary Advisor on Interfaith Relations to the Chief Rabbinate of Israel. He also was a member of the permanent Bilateral Commission of the State of Israel and the Holy See that established bilateral relations between Israel and the Vatican.

In November 2005, Rabbi Rosen was named by Pope Benedict XVI a Papal Knight Commander of the Order of St. Gregory the Great for his outstanding contributions to promoting Catholic-Jewish reconciliation. It was the first time this Vatican honor was given to an Orthodox rabbi.

“All of us at AJC are delighted that the Queen has recognized Rabbi Rosen’s achievements in advancing international interfaith understanding,” said AJC Executive Director David Harris. “Wherever Rabbi Rosen travels, and he does so extensively, he engages those who aspire to a world where religion is seen as a force for good, not evil.”

Among his other path-breaking interreligious initiatives on behalf of AJC, last year Rabbi Rosen hosted at AJC headquarters in New York a major international Hindu-Jewish Summit, further deepening ties between the two faith groups. He also was key to the first visit to Israel, in 2007, of Muslim leadership from India.

http://www.ajc.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=ijITI2PHKoG&b=2818295&content_id={E1B45621-5F1D-4BF6-A62F-134DE8C87F48}&notoc=1

also see:


Benedict Praises "Noahide Law" Commission

Religious Leaders are Playing a Game

Chief Rabbis Ask Pope for Holocaust Studies Requirement in Catholic Schools

The rabbis want their Holocaustolatry in the minds and souls of children at SSPX schools as is already happening in the Novus Ordo. And note that both Rabbi David Rosen and Rabbi Shear Yashuv Cohen who the pope met with today are signers of the Holy See's Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews/Chief Rabbinate of "Israel" joint document which promotes the monumental lie that the "Noahide Laws" of the Talmud have a Biblical, even New Testament basis. See:

Papal Commission Promotes Noahide Laws

Jews ask pope for Holocaust studies in schools

Thu Mar 12, 2009

By Philip Pullella - Reuters

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Israel's religious leaders asked Pope Benedict on Thursday to make Holocaust studies a required subject in Catholic schools, saying it could help combat anti-Semitism in future generations.

The two sides resumed a dialogue that was interrupted by the case of a Holocaust-denying bishop, which brought Catholic-Jewish relations to their lowest point in half a century.

The Israelis also asked that the Vatican take a strong stand against the draft final declaration of next month's U.N. conference on racism, a statement some countries view as hostile to Israel.

"May we suggest for your consideration that the history and the moral import of the Shoah ... become a required subject for inclusion in the curriculum of students at all Catholic schools the world over," Rabbi Shear Yashuv Cohen asked the pope during a meeting at the Vatican, using the Hebrew word for Holocaust.

Cohen, who is chief rabbi of Haifa, said such a move would "reinforce your strong stand against Holocaust denial and declaring anti-Semitism as a sin against God."

Rabbi David Rosen, International Director of Interreligious Affairs for the American Jewish Congress, told reporters afterwards: "I hope a recommendation (from the pope on Holocaust studies in Catholic schools) will come out of this latest crisis. That will be a silver lining to the cloud."

The meeting between representatives of Israel's chief Rabbinate and Vatican officials on Wednesday and Thursday was to have taken place last month but was postponed by the Jewish side because of the controversy over Bishop Richard Williamson.

On January 24, Benedict lifted the excommunication of Williamson and three other traditionalist bishops to try to heal a 20-year-old rift that began when they were thrown out of the Church for being ordained without permission. Williamson has said he believed there were no gas chambers and that no more than 300,000 Jews perished in Nazi concentration camps, compared with the figure of 6 million accepted by mainstream historians.

The pope has since made several major declarations to repudiate Williamson's views and condemn anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial.

On Thursday, Vatican officials announced Benedict would pay a visit to Rome's main synagogue in the autumn. "There's no firm date fixed yet," the chief Vatican spokesman, Father Federico Lombardi, told Italian media.

The Jewish delegation also asked the pope to instruct Vatican diplomats to take a strong stand against the current draft of the final statement of the U.N. Conference on Racism due to be held in Geneva April 20-24, known as Durban II.

The Vatican has said it will attend the conference but hoped for a change in the wording of its final declaration. Both Italy and the United States have said they will not attend unless there is a change of wording.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKTRE52B51320090312?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0

Video here:

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2009/03/12/vo.pope.meets.jewish.cnn

Walter Kasper Clarifies Intention of Benedict's Latin Prayer for the Jews to Chief Pharisee David Rosen

Cardinal Walter Kasper, President of the Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews, has written a letter clarifying the intention of the new Good Friday prayer for the Jews at the request of the Chief Rabbi of "Israel," and papal knight, David Rosen of which I present some excerpts. First, we see it implied by a top Vatican prelate that the Scripture-based traditional Latin Good Friday prayer for the Jews was "language of contempt" while it is stated that the new prayer expresses an intention of "mutual respect in respective otherness":

"To give witness of our Christian faith, as is expressed in the reformulated prayer, is therefore in no way a return to the language of contempt but an expression of mutual respect in our respective otherness."

What is the intention of the reformulated prayer?

The reformulated text no longer speaks about the conversion of the Jews, as some Jewish critics wrongly affirm. The text is a prayer inspired by St. Paul's letter to the Romans, chapter 11, which is the very text which speaks of the unbroken covenant. It takes up Paul's eschatological hope that at the end of times all Israel will be saved. As a prayer the text lays all in the hands of God and not in ours. It says nothing about the how and when. Therefore there is nothing about missionary activities, by which we may take Israel's salvation in our own hands. We leave all in the hands of the one who is the only master and Lord of history.

Does this prayer constitute any change in the Vatican's policy towards the elder brothers?

It is absolutely not the intention of anyone in the Roman Curia to step back and interrupt our fruitful dialogue, which for us is irreversible ...(Letter from Cardinal Walter Kasper, President of the Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews, to Chief Rabbi of "Israel," David Rosen)

A photocopy of the letter can be read at the following link:

http://www.sidic.org/doc/DOC00353_Doc00558.pdf

There you have it, not from some hack lay theologian, but from one of the highest ranking Vatican prelates, expert in Benedict's theology of the "elder brothers" and Benedict's liaison to the Pharisees. If this anti-Gospel intention resonates with you, then sign up here to defend it:

Defend the Dogma, Defend the Holy Father!

And it's worth noting that one of Benedict's first actions as Pope was to make the self-described proud Pharisee, Chief Rabbi of "Israel," David Rosen, whom this letter is addressed to, a papal knight.

See:

The Vatican's Knight Defenders of the Talmud

Papal Rabbi-Knight David Rosen Wants to Change What Christians Believe About the Pharisees

Hypocrites!

It's now being reported that the rabbis are going to condemn Benedict's prayer that he made up for them and foisted upon traditionalists on Shrove Tuesday last week. This is "Jewish" high drama. This serves to make Catholicism seem ever more wicked in the eyes of the world and in need of further updating. It also makes the Vatican appear to be besieged in the eyes of the "trads" and brings support from the foolish among them based upon that appearance. Already "trads" are arguing amongst themselves over the orthodoxy of a prayer which should be rejected straightaway solely based upon it being a concession to enemies of the faith. Once again Catholics have been played by the masters of the dialectic.

Why has this played out in such a devastating way as it has? Because everyone involved in this debacle has forsaken the example set by Jesus Christ for how to deal with Pharisees and their gambits:

"Then came to him from Jerusalem scribes and Pharisees, saying: Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the ancients? For they wash not their hands when they eat bread. But he answering, said to them: Why do you also transgress the commandment of God for your tradition?" (Matthew 15;1-3)

There, plain and simple, is the example from Jesus Christ for how to handle Pharisees and their hypocritical gambits--an example we are called to imitate but so rarely do.

When the Pharisees come knocking asking us to change our prayers for the salvation of their eternal souls saying they're offended by them, the correct answer is, "HYPOCRITES! You who curse us and pray for our destruction three times daily in your obligatory Birkat HaMinim have the audacity to demand that we change our prayers for your salvation? We will not exchange the truth for lies, and may God forgive you for even entertaining the thought!"

Who can come up with a better strategy than Christ?

Here is your ammunition:

And for Christians let there be no hope, and may all the evil in an instant be destroyed and all thy enemies be cut down swiftly; and the evil ones uproot and break and destroy and humble soon in our days. Blessed are you lord who breaks enemies and humbles sinners. (Birkat HaMinim, "Benediction" #12 of the Shmone Esreh (18 Benedictions) mandated by halacha to be prayed by every Orthodox Judaic male three times daily).

This "benediction" is 1918 years old. It predates the Good Friday prayer for the conversion of the Jews by centuries. There can be no argument that it was a reaction to "antisemitism" and "Christian violence" as was formulated at the time when the fledgling Christian Church was being persecuted by the synagogues. It has been mandatory that Orthodox Judaic males recite this curse against Christians for 1918 years now and Abe Foxman, The Chief Rabbinate of Israel, Rabbi-Knight David Rosen, the AJC and the rest of the Pharisees who have demanded that the Catholic liturgy be altered to their specification KNOW THIS. They're hypocrites. In fact, they're twice the hypocrite children of hell as their Pharisee spiritual forefathers of whom Christ said: "hypocrites; because you go round about the sea and the land to make one proselyte; and when he is made, you make him the child of hell twofold more than yourselves."

Papal Rabbi-Knight David Rosen Wants to Change What Christians Believe About the Pharisees

Rabbi Rosen Presents his Gospel mocking book to Benedict XVI

Christ called the Pharisees "children of hell." But what did He know ... Note that this man, Rabbi David Rosen who happily identifies himself as a Pharisee, also has had the title "papal knight" bestowed upon him by Benedict XVI. And note that Rabbi David Rosen is one of the signers of the document produced by the joint committee of the Papal Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews and the Chief Rabbinate of "Israel" which claims a Biblical basis for the Talmudic "Noahide Laws" documented HERE.

... [Rabbi David] Rosen kept talking about Pharisees in a complimentary way. Kendall finally said, "Rabbi Rosen, I almost get the impression that you're a Pharisee and proud of it." Rosen replied, "You're exactly right!" That led to more conversations, and a book ...

Rosen: My hope would be that Christians would associate Pharisee with a good Jew, one who lives in the sense of the divine presence and seeks to fulfill the divine Word and will in his or her daily life. But I think we've got too many centuries of negative indoctrination.

So what Rosen is saying is that he wants Christians to believe exactly the opposite of what the Gospel teaches about the Pharisees. Rosen goes on to call Jesus a Pharisee and then creates a false dilemma between "good" Pharisees who uphold the Pharisaic tradition and "bad" Pharisees who fall short of what he fancies to be the lofty ideals of the Pharisaic tradition:

... I believe that Jesus was a Pharisee who knew that there were wonderful Pharisees around, probably the majority, but there were some who were actually desecrating the name, the message, and the tradition they were meant to be the custodians of.

One wonders where this "majority" of "good Pharisees" was during Christ's apprehension by, and trial before the Sanhedrin and subsequent execution. And one wonders further where that "majority" of "good Pharisees" was when the Pharisees wrote in their Talmud that Christ deserved to be executed.

And dear Rabbi Rosen, ... excuse me, dear Pharisee Rosen, I seem to recall that it was precisely the Pharisaic tradition itself that Christ condemned so repeatedly and so harshly; the tradition which He said makes void the Word of God which the Pharisees should have been the custodians of but were not; the tradition that you uphold and which you disingenuously attempt to makeover. You may as well attempt to sell me on the notion that the sky is red, or that 2+2=3, or that rabbis are honest men of good will ...

Full article:

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/october/34.56.html

More on Papal Pharisee-Knight, David Rosen Here:

The Vatican's Knight Defenders of the Talmud

Rabbi David Rosen: "German" Pope Aware of "Special Responsibility to Reaffirm Church's Commitment to a More Pro-Jewish Attitude

Rabbi Rosen of AJC Reassures World "Jewry" of Vatican Compliance

AJC Welcomes Vatican Clarification

Hegel's Dialectic In Practice at Vatican

Latin Mass <> Novus Ordo Mass - Neocon Mass

Thesis <> antithesis - synthesis.

Italian Jewish leaders expressed relief on Thursday after the Vatican Secretary of State said the prayer for the conversion of Jews could be eliminated from the recently re-introduced Latin Mass ...

... according to ANSA, Cardinal Bertone said everyone could be told to use the third version [of the prayer], introduced by Paul VI in 1970. It asks for prayers that Jews, as the chosen people, "may arrive at the fullness of redemption". (Cardinal Bertone says prayer for conversion of Jews in Latin Mass could go, Catholic News Agency, Jul 20, 2007)

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=9924

... on November 16, 1982, on request of Pope Wojtyla, a meeting presided by Ratzinger, then-Prefect of the former Holy Office, at which also took part Cardinals Baggio, Baum, Casaroli (then Secretary of State), Oddi, and Archbishop [future Cardinal] Casoria ... at that meeting, a document against liturgical abuses, identified among the reasons "for the current crisis of the Church", was also suggested, as well as, in a remote future, a synthesis "of both missals" [1962 missal and Novus Ordo missal]. That future is today less remote. The decision of Benedict XVI is thus not a step back, but a stage of the liturgical reform willed by the Council and not yet fully accomplished. ("Ratzinger's turning point on the liturgy - All clear for the Ancient Latin Mass," Andrea Tornielli, Il Giornale, June 17, 2007)

AJC, ADL Welcome Vatican Clarification

AJC Welcomes Vatican Clarification

July 19, 2007 - New York - The American Jewish Committee welcomes the Vatican's concern for replacing a prayer calling for the conversion of Jews in the Tridentine Latin mass.

"We appreciate the statement by Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, Vatican Secretary of State, making it clear that efforts will be made to replace the disturbing Good Friday prayer for Jewish conversion found in the 1962 version of the Latin Tridentine mass," said Rabbi David Rosen, AJC's international director of Interreligious Affairs.

Following the Pope's "Motu Proprio" announced on July 7, there had been concern that this pre-Vatican II prayer would again be more extensively used.

"Contrary to those who presented the Motu Proprio, as a retreat from advances in Catholic-Jewish relations, this clarification in effect confirms those strides and even advances them," said Rosen.

For well over half a century, AJC has been deeply involved in seeking to advance Catholic-Jewish relations around the world. Rabbi Rosen chairs the International Jewish Committee for Interreligious Consultations which is the official Jewish partner of the Holy See's Commission for Religious Relations with Jewry, chaired by Cardinal Walter Kasper.

http://www.ajc.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=ijITI2PHKoG&b=849241&ct=4143223

ADL Welcomes Vatican's Consideration To Remove Anti-Jewish Prayer

New York, NY, July 19, 2007 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) welcomed the comments of a senior Vatican official that the Good Friday Latin prayer to convert Jews could be removed from the re-introduced Latin liturgy. Holy See Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, who ranks second to Pope Benedict XVI, told reporters that the Vatican could study the possibility of substituting the prayer. "This could be decided and this would resolve all the problems," he said.

"We are pleased that the Vatican is listening to our concerns," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "We hope that Cardinal Bertone's public conjectures will shortly result in putting Catholic-Jewish relations back to the positive mode we were in before all this."

Mr. Foxman added that, "ADL has no position on the Latin Mass itself. Our concern is focused on the Good Friday Latin prayer to convert Jews, which contradicts 40 years of evolving Catholic teachings about the eternal covenant between God and the Jewish people, and the end of efforts to baptize Jews."

ADL has called on the Holy See to re-examine its decision to sanction the anti-Jewish Good Friday prayer, which is included in a new papal decree that grants wider usage of the Latin Mass, a worship service that has been restricted since the progressive reforms of the Second Vatican Council and the landmark Nostra Aetate document in the 1960s. Because of the offensive language, Pope Paul VI in 1970 replaced the 1962 Latin prayer with a much more positive prayer for Jews.

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/VaticanJewish_96/5103_96.htm

No Prayers Necessary for the Self-Chosen

These people believe they are redeemed solely by virtue of their being born. Prayers from soulless Christian idolater trash for the eternal welfare of the chosen people are not necessary, and indeed highly offensive. Vatican authorities seem to be of this same thinking.

The question, however, is this: if these "chosen people" are redeemed solely by virtue of their "race," then why did John the Baptist preach repentance to the true ethnic Jews of his day and why did Jesus Christ target the same Jews in His ministry and die a horrible death for them on the cross? He must have been very confused. Thank God we have the great minds of the ADL and the Vatican to sort out Christ's mistakes.

Top Vatican official says controversial Latin prayer for Jews could be dropped

ROME - The most senior official in the Vatican after the Pope suggested yesterday that a highly controversial prayer for the conversion of the Jews could be dropped from the re-introduced Latin-language rite.

Speaking at a news conference, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone was asked about Pope Benedict's recent decree allowing a wider use of the old Latin missal, or prayer book, that was phased out after the reforms of the so-called Second Vatican Council.

Jewish leaders sharply criticized the decree, which revived the possible use of a passage from the old Latin prayer book for Good Friday calling for Jews to be converted.

Bertone, who is secretary of state and ranks second only to the Pope in the Vatican hierarchy, said "we could simply study" the possibility of substituting the prayer. The Good Friday prayer asks that God remove the "veil" from from Jewish heart so that they would recognize Jesus Christ.

Bertone said the prayer that many Jews have found offensive could be substituted with one introduced into church rituals in the 1970s and which makes no reference to conversion of Jews. (Associated Press, Thu., July 19, 2007)

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/883843.html

Rabbi Rosen of AJC Reassures "World Jewry" on Vatican Compliance

Jul. 14, 2007 22:56 | Updated Jul. 15, 2007 9:04

Mix realism with humility

By DAVID ROSEN

The directive issued this week by Pope Benedict XVI concerning the use of the traditional Catholic Latin (Tridentine) Mass has led to some extreme reactions. As a result there have been suggestions, echoed uncritically in the media, that there is some kind of new Catholic initiative for the conversion of Jews, and that Jewish-Catholic relations are regressing.

This is completely incorrect.

To begin with, the pope has reiterated time and again his commitment to close, respectful relations with Judaism and the Jewish people, which he has reemphasized as unique for the church, as Judaism and the Jewish people are its very foundations. He has already received numerous Jewish leadership groups, and began to do so even before receiving Protestant groups, let alone delegations from other religions.

The Catholic Church has rejected proselytism and since the second Vatican Ecumenical Council in the sixties has abandoned any institutional "mission to the Jews."

The church has not changed its position on these matters ...

We [at the American Jewish Committee] received reassurances in the course of the past months from the Vatican, and in the Pope's guidelines there is in fact a restriction on the use of the Latin Mass during the days preceding Easter, which is when the prayer for the conversion of the Jews was recited. Yet it is not clear how extensive this limitation is, and we have accordingly asked the Vatican to issue a clarification that we hope will confirm that there is no official warrant whatsoever for reciting that text ...

THE CATHOLIC Church has a commission to promote relations with World Jewry. Its primary partner is the International Jewish Committee for Interreligious Consultations, which I chair. It also has a Bilateral Commission with the Chief Rabbinate of Israel, which meets regularly and has further strengthened ties between Israel and the Vatican. Next year's Synod of Bishops will focus on the way Scripture should be taught and preached in order to avoid any anti-Semitic or anti-Judaic prejudices.

All this shows that we have made enormous strides in these bilateral relations ... (Rabbi David Rosen, International Director of Interreligious Affairs of the American Jewish Committee, Jerusalem Post July 14, 2007)

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1184168563451&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull