Why traffic in storybook depictions?

On March 27, 1963 Cardinal Bea HIMSELF met with Rabbis Marc Tanenbaum and Abraham Heschel, representatives of the 'American' 'Jewish' Committee, in Boston in Cardinal Cushing's chancery, and discussed what "The Jews" wanted to happen at the Vatican II council. This is very well documented, easily accessed information (e.g. Spiritual Radical, Edward Kaplan). Cardinal Bea then went to the AJC headquarters in New York on March 31, 1963 to further discuss what "The Jews" wanted to happen at the council with President of the Central Conference of American Rabbis, Rabbi Albert G. Minda, Heschel and Tanenbaum (see document and image below). Further, Rabbi Heschel met with Pope Paul VI on the opening day of the third session of the council, Sept 14, 1964, to discuss what "The Jews" wanted to happen at the council. The Pope changed the originally scheduled day to accommodate the rabbi's religion (it was 'the Jewish Sabbath'). This is easily sourced, widely available information.

Cardinal Bea and the Pope himself met with Rabbi Heschel who confided to an Israeli reporter that his motive for making outrageous statements about 'going to Auschwitz rather than convert' was that he wanted to attack Christian souls. This is a well documented fact. And they made concessions to this hostile figure and the hostile organizations he represented in a Vatican II Council document. There are photographs of Heshel meeting Pope Paul VI in 1971 AFTER Heschel had made this admission of hostile intent which was well known in Rome.

There are photographs of Cardinal Shehan meeting with Zachariah Shuster (of the AJC and one of Malachi Martin's handlers) to discuss Vatican II; photos of Cardinal Spellman meeting with AJC directors. This barely scratches the surface of well-documented meetings that took place between Judaic organizations and their rabbis and cardinals and even the Pope leading up to Vatican II. There were many, many such meetings and they continue to this day, seemingly on a daily, or at least weekly basis.

Why do 'traditionalists' prefer the Malachi Martinesque, storybook version of history about 'a cold winter night sometime between 1962-63 when Cardinal Bea may have sent a representative to a mysterious meeting in a synagogue basement somewhere in Strasbourg which he neither confirmed or denied took place'? Why is this so much more alluring than the documented facts?

I believe what I've been told is true: there is an insufficient love for truth among these people.

Fr. Stephen Schmidt, S. J.; President of the Central Conference of American Rabbis, Rabbi Albert G. Minda; Rabbi Abraham J. Heschel; AJC Director of Interreligious Affairs, Rabbi Marc Tanenbaum with Cardinal Augustin Bea, March 31, 1963, AJC building, 165 E. 56th St., New York City

"Yom HaShoah" Liturgy for Catholic Children

Teaching the Holocaust: Commemoration in the Classroom: Liturgy for Christian Schools

Collected by members of the Seattle Archdiocese

Anyone Whose (Alleged) Representatives are Engaged in "Dialogue" With Zionists, Pay Close Attention to This

Anyone paying attention already knew that "dialogue" with "The Jews" is a one-way racket, but the depth of the fraud is far worse than most could imagine.

Tear up the Palestine Papers

Betrayed by their leaders, Palestinians have to start their struggle again in a spirit of national reconciliation and unity

Abdel Bari Atwan - Gulf News
January 30, 2011

Trusted colleagues inform me that the cache of 1.600 leaked documents now known as the ‘Palestine Papers' came from three main sources: Palestinian nationalists who are opposed to Palestinian National Authority (PNA) policies and reject their role as negotiators; former members of the PNA who have defected due to differences with the leadership and have old scores to settle; and people who anticipated financial reward for their contribution.

While Palestinians reel with shock at the contents of confidential minutes, e-mails, memos and handwritten notes, the PNA's leadership is equally horrified at having been discovered courting Israeli and US officials and selling its countrymen down the line.

It should come as no surprise that the PNA is so porous. The organisation's internal affairs are chaotic and its leaders embarrassingly amateurish.

As countless commentators have pointed out, not one of the group currently brokering the future of Palestine — Mahmoud Abbas, Saeb Erekat, Ahmad Qorei, Yasser Abed Rabbo and Salam Fayyad — has a current mandate to do so. Mahmoud Abbas' presidential term, for example, expired on January 9, 2009, when he unilaterally re-elected himself!

Any notion that this desperation to cling to power was motivated by anything other than self interest, has now been extinguished.

The Palestine Papers reveal a gut-wrenching level of PNA collusion — against its own people — with Israel, the US and Britain. It is also clear that for PNA leaders the enemy is Hamas, not Israel.

Infamous for human rights abuses and imprisoning its rivals without trial, the PNA's security apparatus — we now discover — was founded on a blueprint commissioned by Tony Blair and developed by the British secret service, MI6, in 2004. Israel is close at hand to help: in a 2006 conversation with America's Keith Dayton, Erekat celebrated the PNA's ‘security liaison with Israel'.

At its most sinister, this unpalatable collaboration includes a casual approach to the murder of fellow Palestinians: documents from 2005 detail a discussion between Israeli defence minister, Shaul Mofaz and PNA interior minister, Nasser Yousuf about Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades leader Hassan Al Madhoun. "We know his address ... Why don't you kill him?" Mofaz asked.

Yousuf replied that ‘instructions' had been given but complains ‘you haven't offered anything'. In the event Madhoun was murdered by Israeli forces. In September 2009, Erekat told a US official that "we have killed our own people to ... establish one authority, one gun and the rule of law".

The documents reveal an incomprehensible attitude to Israel's winter 2008-09 onslaught (code-named Operation Cast Lead) in which 1,400 Palestinians — nearly half of them women and children — lost their lives.

Clandestine meeting

First we discover that Israeli intelligence chief, Amos Gilad, alerted Abbas prior to the attack and met with no resistance. Then from WikiLeaks, we learn that on December 29, 2008, PNA security chiefs held a clandestine meeting with top Israeli military and intelligence officials: not, as we would have hoped, to angrily berate their bloodthirsty enemy, but to discuss the best way to handle anti-Israel protests in the West Bank. According to the US Embassy cable, "the two sides agreed to expedite coordination and exchange information on disturbances".

On October 2, 2009, Abbas blocked a UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) resolution supporting the Goldstone Report. The resolution would have paved the way for a war crimes prosecution against the architects of ‘Operation Cast Lead' including Ehud Olmert and Tzipi Livni (then foreign minister).

Leaked minutes from a Washington meeting between Senator George Mitchell and Erekat suggest that the UNHRC vote was used as a bargaining tool: Mitchell promised to broker a resumption of the stalled peace process and to talk up the Palestinians' demands in exchange for Abbas calling for the vote to be deferred. It was during this meeting that Erekat enthusiastically insisted that "we want to help the Israelis".

The papers consistently portray a PNA more concerned with remaining in power than the welfare of fellow Palestinians. In 2008, it blocked the release of 450 Arab prisoners in exchange for kidnapped Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit. Qorei bluntly informed Livni that such a move would "make Hamas appear as a hero before the public and that Abu Mazen [Mahmoud Abbas] gives speeches only".

Also in 2008, concerned that Israel's brutal siege of Gaza was being thwarted by Palestinians tunnelling along the Egyptian border, Qorei urged Livni to "occupy the [Philadelphi] crossing".

Six months before Livni personally oversaw ‘Operation Cast Lead', Qorei flattered the Kadima leader saying "I'd vote for you". The papers are littered with such sycophancy: Erekat frequently addresses Netanyahu by his pet name ‘Bibi'.

Yet the Israeli and US negotiators showed little respect for the PNA group. In 2008, the Israelis presented a map of proposed land swaps, but wouldn't let the Palestinians keep a copy. The sight of the then 73-year-old Abbas copying the map on to a paper napkin is truly painful.

The end of the Palestine Papers' depressing saga sees an increasingly desperate Palestinian team surrendering one key national position after another: it offers Israel nearly all of occupied east Jerusalem (Erekat cringe-makingly refers to it by its Hebrew name, Yerushalayim); it agrees to Israel annexing its illegal colonies and it limits the right of return to just 10,000 refugees. The Israelis scorn every offer and cold-bloodedly ask for more. Then US secretary of state Condoleezza Rice expertly extinguishes the last flickerings of Palestinian pride with the suggestion that its refugees could be transferred to Latin America.

The PNA leaders and negotiators have completely discredited themselves and the Peace Process. As valiant protesters put their lives on the line for regime change in Egypt, Jordan and Yemen, Abbas and his men must realiee that the days of autocratic, oppressive and corrupt Middle Eastern regimes are numbered.

Abbas is making it known that he intends to resign in September — no doubt hoping that a miracle will occur in the intervening time to save him. The whole group should go immediately, but will probably cling to power until the last possible moment, unwilling to relinquish the material benefits and status they have become addicted to.

There can be no more negotiations between today's Israeli government and these fake Palestinian representatives. The Palestinian people have to start their struggle again in a spirit of national reconciliation and unity, never forgetting that they are an occupied people, resisting all the evils of Israeli occupation through civil disobedience and, if necessary, intifada.

The Palestine Papers represent a shameful history that should now be torn up.

http://gulfnews.com/opinions/columnists/tear-up-the-palestine-papers-1.754082

A Lesson in Modern "Dialogue"

It has been revealed that the Palestinian Authority agreed to suppress the Goldstone Report on the 2008/2009 Gaza massacre to:

"help promote a positive atmosphere conducive to negotiations ... [to] refrain from pursuing or supporting any initiative directly or indirectly in international legal forums that would undermine that atmosphere."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/26/gaza-report-palestinian-authority-stalled

Meanwhile, the Israelis are free to bomb, demolish, assassinate and steal land with impunity, none of which promotes a positive atmosphere. I think that the ostensibly noble end of "creating a positive atmosphere conducive to discussion" is not the real objective here.

Now, a few words from SSPX Superior General, Bishop Fellay regarding his discussions with Rome:

For our part, we wanted to try—willfully and deliberately—to create a serene climate around the discussions. Evidently, an indirect consequence of this can be that, concerning certain themes, unrelated or related to these discussions, for the moment one might have the impression that the Society will not have spoken with as much vehemence as on other occasions.

http://sspx.org/news/is_sspx_being_muzzled.htm

While these words suggest a lofty ideal, Bp. Fellay's actions--taking on a Zionist lawyer/business partner and jointly, vehemently smearing Bp. Williamson in the international media--are evidence that creating a serene climate is not the real objective.

What is evident in both cases is that a certain agenda plods steadily along wreaking havoc while the alleged opposition is neutralized by the alleged need for "creating a serene atmosphere" "conducive to dialogue."

This "dialogue" is no dialogue. It's a time-buying fraud. I pray that people figure this out before they've been robbed entirely of their history, property and their very souls.

Get to Know Alexander Mashkevich

updated Oct 15th:

Orthodox Archbishop Antoniy (left) and EAJC president Alexander Mashkevich

The 'Russian' oligarch, Alexander Mashkevich who strips the wealth and resources from Eastern Europe and Africa into his Swiss bank accounts but "wasn't doing anything amoral" on a boat with 'underage prostitutes' in late September 2010, is (who knew?), a heavy hitter in the interfaith dialogue racket. At an October 2009 World Jewish Congress conference, "PHASE II STRATEGIC FORUM: IN DEPTH ANALYSIS" he candidly offered his thoughts on interfaith dialogue:

"... there is a very important topic – dialog ... I think that maybe the most primitive, but most effective mechanism how we can do it, we have to find a way, we have to push religious leaders to say some words, which are positive to Jews. And we have transfer, we have to deliver these words to simple people. If, let say, Pope, whoever, or Imam or I don’t know who, has to be top level religious people – they have to say good words about Jews. How we could achieve it? It is our target, our job. I will tell you later what we do in this way. But we have to do it not only in a room, we have to do it through media to deliver it to hundreds millions, so when simple people hear what the leaders are saying, believe me, they follow their leaders."

Machkevich gives an example of this 'dialogue' explaining how he bought off Russian Orthodox Church leaders to such a fantastic degree that Orthodox Church representatives bestowed on him the order of Saint apostle Andrey Pervozvanny, Protector of Russia and publicly proclaimed, "God gave to you, to your people this land ["Israel"]. You have no right to give to the Palestinians even one piece of this land.”

"I will tell you an interesting story. I built myself five Orthodox churches. Five. And they are not small, they are big, big – thousands people could come to one church."

Video here:

http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/video?id=73

The nice things that Mashkevich buys as part of his 'dialogue' with faith leaders come with strings attached, as you may have guessed. We saw one such example in Astana, Kazakhstan, July 2009 when Mashkevich and his crony, Kazakhstan President Nursultan Nazarbayev hosted a "World Council of Religions " and brought in Israeli terrorist, Shimon Peres as a surprise keynote speaker. The surprise was not a welcome one. See:

Israeli Terrorist, Shimon Peres Surprise Keynote Speaker at 'Congress of World Religions'

Peres [scheduled to give a] speech ... before an inter-faith panel in Kazakhstan in which hundreds of Muslim leaders and religious figures from the Middle East and the world will participate. The chief rabbis of Israel and the minister of religious affairs will also be in attendance.

The forum is being organized by the Kazakh government together with the Euro-Asian Jewish Congress.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3737906,00.html

Also see Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran's address:

WORKSHOP ON "MORAL AND SPIRITUAL VALUES, WORLD ETHICS" DURING THE THIRD CONGRESS OF LEADERS OF WORLD AND TRADITIONAL RELIGIONS IN ASTANA, KAZAKHSTAN, 1-2 JULY 2009

INTERVENTION OF CARDINAL JEAN-LOUIS TAURAN

Astana, Kazakhstan, 2 July 2009

Shimon Peres, Pope Continue 17 Year Dialogue on Church Properties

Note the patience and care that goes into Vatican-'Israel' dialogue regarding Church properties in contrast to the 'dialogue' by which Church teaching is circumvented and overthrown.

AsiaNews (Tel Aviv) - On Thursday, the President of the State of Israel, will be received in Audience at Castelgandolfo by Pope Benedict XVI. In preparation for this appointment, the octogenarian Head of State told an interviewer on the First Channel of Italy’s public television (RAI): “The relations between the Vatican and the Jewish State are the best since the times of Jesus Christ, and have never been so good in two thousand years of history.” He added too: “The reigning Pontiff wishes to have a sincere dialogue with us, as we wish to have with the Vatican” ...

There is then still some way to go in order for the “dialogue” mentioned by President Peres to achieve its purposes completely. However, the forward-looking optimism of the President of Israel is promising, and in fact it seems that both Parties are working towards that goal and are making steady progress.

... Father David-Maria A. Jaeger, an expert on Church-State relations in Israel, tells AsiaNews: “Especially in the last few years, it appears that the negotiations, which in effect constitute this ‘dialogue’ – to which President Peres refers – between the Holy See and the State of Israel, are being pursued by both Parties with great seriousness and commitment, as is evident from the ‘Joint Communiqués’ released from time to time by the Bilateral Commission. Though without ignoring the problems in various sectors of the day-to-day relations between the Church and the State, optimism is obligatory, and such optimism in itself has a decidedly beneficial influence.” He adds too: “In the end, obstinate optimism endows the experience of daily life with an eschatological horizon.”

Also see:

Israeli Terrorist, Shimon Peres Surprise Keynote Speaker at 'Congress of World Religions'

Will Benedict's "Pilgrimage" Boost "Israel's" Image or Destroy His Own?

USCCB States Principles for "Dialogue" Fraud

'Truth' Synthesized Dialogically

Papal Commission Promotes Noahide Laws

NY Archbishop Dolan: "The Holocaust" "Demands" "Memory," "To Forget is Heretical"

When is the last time you heard a modern prelate mention the term, heresy, in its proper context, in relation to the perennial teachings of the Church?

In a recent ceremony commemorating Pope Benedict's visit to a synagogue during his U.S. visit in 2008, Archbishop Timothy Dolan of New York spoke on the importance of Catholic-Jewish relations, stressing that the two must focus on their commonality and work together to preserve the “memory” of the faith.

Archbishop Dolan gave his remarks at the unveiling of a commemorative plaque at Park East Synagogue in New York City on April 22 ...

“Both of our traditions reverence memory,” he asserted. “'To forget' is disastrous, dangerous, and heretical. We both worry about an amnesia that seems a part of today’s existence, to live only for the now, unconscious of our roots, our foundations.”

“It is my hope that in the many years God may give me as Archbishop of New York, our Catholic-Jewish dialogue may be marked by a practice of 'memory' which never fails to hold us mutually accountable to the honesty and transparency demanded by the tragedy of the Holocaust, but also to a 'mutuality' of concern for each other which places our friendship first, and our grievances second. Our dialogue must never be reduced to one of exchanged grievances.” ("Archbishop Dolan: Catholics and Jews must work to preserve 'memory' of faith," Catholic News Agency, Apr 27, 2010)

In fact, "our dialogue" is an arrangement in which one side "remembers" and expresses its grievances for which it offers no forgiveness while the other makes unending concessions from which even core beliefs are not spared. This is not dialogue and it's not friendship. It's enslavement.

Will traditionalists stand against the enslaving modernist dogma of Holocaustolatry which has been enshrined in the Catholic Church?

Pius XII, Bishop Williamson Media Controversies are Theatre for Peasants, No Impediment to 'Dialogue'

For all his insight, the author will not acknowledge that the rabbis bluff when they threaten to withdraw from 'dialogue'--the vehicle by which their nefarious goals against the Church are advanced--or that the rabbis' helpers in the establishment press have interests other than selling newspapers.

Exaggerations for Dubious Ends

Edward Pentin - NCR

Friday, January 22, 2010

After a week in which Pope Benedict XVI visited the Great Synagogue of Rome and the Vatican and the Rabbinate of Israel held their regular annual meeting, Catholic-Jewish relations are looking considerably healthy – much more so than it might appear in some of the mass media.

As mentioned in an earlier post, whatever the controversies affecting the dialogue, relations usually continue much as they did before, largely thanks – as the Holy Father noted in his synagogue address – to advances in dialogue emanating from the Second Vatican Council’s declaration Nostra Aetate.

Rabbi David Rosen, director of the American Jewish Committee’s Department for Interreligious Affairs, called the Pope’s visit to Rome’s synagogue “a genuine milestone, putting many fears and suspicions to rest and reinvigorating the historic transformation of this relationship in our times.” He noted what he called a warm, impressive and festive atmosphere which he said was a “public expression of already well established friendships between Catholic and Jewish leadership present.”

Of course, the well trodden controversies over Pius XII, Richard Williamson and the Good Friday prayer of the Traditional Latin Mass have, rightly or wrongly, been of real concern to many Jews. Yet their real impact on dialogue is actually minor. During this week’s bilateral commission between the Vatican and Rabbinate of Israel – a meeting that included a number of very senior Judaic and Church leaders – the dispute over Pius was never raised. More important were the areas the two faiths hold in common.

“These controversies are important for the mass media, but not for our dialogue,” said Father Norbert Hoffman, the Secretary of the Vatican Commission on Religious Relations with Judaism. ”We didn’t talk about the Pius matter at all during this [commission] meeting. Of course this issue exists but it doesn’t exist in the sense that the media think it would be on the table.” He added the final assessment of the delegation of the Chief Rabbinate was that the Pope’s visit to the synagogue was “very successful.”

Earlier this week, the [Judaic advocate of dungeon sentences for non-believers of "Holocaust" dogmas who is located in France], Bernard-Henri Lévy, denounced what he said were media caricatures of Benedict XVI and Pius XII in their dealings with Jews, saying their words and deeds belied their media portrayals.

All of which further points to what many have long suspected: that certain individuals and groups, not only within the mass media but elsewhere, are sadly exaggerating and exploiting Catholic-Jewish differences to suit their own ends, whether it be to sell newspapers or, more seriously, for a variety of nefarious goals directed against the Church.

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/exaggerations_for_dubious_ends/

Archbishop Dolan and Rabbi Wechsler Radio Dialogue

U.S. archbishop and rabbi to hold religious dialogue on satellite radio

New York City, N.Y., Dec 18, 2009 / 03:02 pm (CNA).- SIRIUS XM Radio announced on Thursday that Archbishop Timothy Dolan of the Archdiocese of New York and Rabbi Harlan J. Wechsler, who both host their own radio shows, will co-host a live radio special on Sunday, Dec. 20.

“We are honored to bring together Archbishop Dolan and Rabbi Wechsler for an insightful discussion that will appeal to people of many backgrounds,” said Scott Greenstein, President and Chief Content Officer of SIRIUS XM Radio. “This thought-provoking and timely dialogue about tradition and faith demonstrates the unique power of radio.”

Archbishop Dolan and Rabbi Wechsler, hosts of “A Conversation with the Archbishop” and “Rabbi Wechsler Teaches” respectively, will hold an interfaith dialogue on Sunday and address topics such as Catholic and Jewish holy days and the importance of preserving traditions in an increasingly secularized world.

The program will be broadcast simultaneously on The Catholic Channel and SIRIUS XM Stars on Sunday Dec. 20 from 3:00-4:00 ET.

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/u.s._archbishop_and_rabbi_to_hold_religious_dialogue_on_satellite_radio/

Priest, Rabbi Ask, “Did God Survive the Holocaust?”

Heaven, earth and God Himself may pass away, but "The Holocaust" shall not pass away. (Gospel of Wiesel 21;33)

Fr. John T. Pawlikowski, apparently a disciple of Elie Wiesel, was the topic of the last blog entry, 'Shoah' Theologian Reveals Hermetic/Kabbalistic Doctrine at Core of Holocaustolatry.

Jewish and Catholic leaders to discuss God and the Holocaust

November 21, 2009

A challenging dialogue concerning God and the Holocaust will be discussed by Jewish and Roman Catholic leaders on Monday, at the Eastern Michigan University Student Ballroom at 7 p.m. The public is invited to attend this free event.

Dr. Guy Stern, Ph.D., director of the International Institute of the Righteous of the Holocaust Memorial Center Zekelman Family Campus in Farmington Hills will discuss a Jewish point of view. This year, the Holocaust Memorial Center Zekelman Family Campus celebrates its 25th anniversary as America’s first freestanding museum dedicated to the memory of the Holocaust. The International Institute of the Righteous honors the thousands of non-Jews who saved or attempted to save at least one Jew, with the knowledge that they were putting themselves in danger by doing so. As is quoted on the museum’s Web site, “As it said in the Talmud: ‘When someone saves a life, it is as if that person had saved the whole world.’” [This falsification is set straight HERE, MP.]

... Father John T. Pawlikowski, OSM, Ph.D., will represent the Catholic perspective in the dialogue. A professor of social ethics at the Catholic Theological Union and director of the Catholic-Jewish Studies Program at the Catholic Theological Union’s Cardinal Joseph Bernadin Center, Fr. Pawlikowski hails from the largest Roman Catholic Graduate School of Theology and Ministry in the U.S.

The Jewish/Catholic conversation, entitled “Did God Survive the Holocaust,” will be presented by Hillel at Eastern Michigan University and by Holy Trinity Catholic Student Parish. The moderator of the dialogue will be Dr Martin Schichtman, professor of English, and co-sponsored by the Division of Academic Affairs; the College of Arts and Sciences; the Department of Communication; the Media and Theater Arts; the Department of History and Philosphy; the Department of Sociology, Anthropology and Criminology; and the Department of World Languages.

The Eastern Michigan University Student Center Ballroom is located at 900 Oakwood in Ypsilanti, Mich. For more information, call (734) 740-2885.

http://www.annarbor.com/faith/jewish-and-catholic-leaders-to-discuss-god-and-the-holocaust/

Schönborn: Vatican to Level Core Principles of Dialogue and "Reintegration" with SSPX

What a mockery. The Catholic-Jewish relations racket is rigidly anchored in bedrock while the Gospel and perennial Catholic teachings shift in the sands.

Vatican commission to draw red lines for ultra-traditionalists

Sat, 12 Sep 2009

Earth Times

Vienna - The Vatican is set to tell a rebel ultra- traditional Catholic group that the Church's core values and its relations with Judaism are not negotiable, Austrian Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn said in an interview published on Saturday. Earlier this year, the Catholic leadership in Rome drew criticism from within and outside the Church for lifting excommunication orders against bishops of the controversial Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX), including British-born Richard Williamson who has denied the scale of the Nazi mass murder of Jews.

In the coming days, a recently restructured church commission would meet the renegades, the cardinal and Vienna archbishop told the Passauer Neue Presse.

Rome would not give the group a "free pass," and Pope Benedict XVI was striving to "get a group of Catholics which has parted from the Church back into the boat," said Schoenborn, who is a member of several Vatican bodies.

The non-negotiable positions to be set out to the Pius Society include the Church's positions towards the Jewish faith, other non- Christian religions as well as Christian faiths, and towards religious freedom as a fundamental human right, according to Schoenborn.

In June, the pope placed the commission under the authority of the Holy See's main disciplinary watchdog body, after it had drawn criticism for its handling of the SSPX.

SSPX members are currently barred from official roles within the church unless they agree to fully abide with its teachings.

Such teachings include the so-called Second Vatican Council reforms of the 1960s, which sought to modernize the Church.

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/285322,vatican-commission-to-draw-red-lines-for-ultra-traditionalists.html

also see:

Schönborn Upstages Falwell

Benedict XVI: Dialogue With the People of the Talmud a "Sacred Duty"

Compare Schönborn's worship with the worship of the SSPX:

Cardinal Schönborn Mocks Mass

On The Contrary: What worship was like before the come-as-you-are-hootenanies of today

Thanks to an anonymous commenter at "Rorate Caeli" for the Schönborn video.

The True 'Spirit of Assisi' Unveiled

'Dialogue' and the 'Spirit of Assisi' under the 'Noahide' rainbow.





http://www.santegidio.org/index.php?&idLng=1064

http://www.santegidio.org/downloads/cracovia_en.pdf

One important event will be a pilgrimage, unprecedented in size and representation, to the Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp, on September 8. This will serve as a sign of reconciliation and peace and a symbol of a radical rejection of violence and war as a way of solving international conflicts.

The program will begin with an inaugural Mass tomorrow, presided by Cardinal Dziwisz at the Divine Mercy Shrine. In the afternoon, there will be an Inaugural Assembly in the Auditorium 'Maximum' of Krakow. On September 7, there will be 22 round-table discussions in various parts of the city, which will address various themes including: Do Not Forget Auschwitz; the Legacy of John Paul II; Latin America in a Globalized World; Religions and the Challenge of Materialism; Dialogue of Faith and Culture; Faiths in Asia: Building a World Without Violence; Africa, Land of Opportunity; Religions and Global Health of the World: the Rebirth of Africa; The Power of Prayer Over History; Faith and Science.” The final day, September 8, in the morning there will be a Silent March to the gas chambers of the concentration camp at Birkenau and a Memorial Ceremony at the International Monument to the Victims of Nazi-fascism. In the afternoon, following the prayer encounters at various sites, the various religious communities will meet for a Peace Procession that will make its way to Market Square, where the closing ceremony will be held.

http://www.indcatholicnews.com/news.php?viewStory=14765

Auschwitz sanctified again, Sept 8, 2009.

Also see:

Rome Hosts Conference on "The Contribution of Judaism to Our Contemporary World."

Religious Leaders are Playing a Game

The REAL Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow

'Truth' Synthesized Dialogically

In SSPX Fr. Scott's commentary on Pope Benedict's recent misnamed encyclical, Caritas in Veritate, inter alia, he offers the following insight:

Here is the Pope’s definition of truth, playing on the Greek expression for the Word (of God): “Truth, in fact, is lógos which creates diá-logos, and hence communication and communion.” Truth requires communication with others’ truth. The very next sentence explains what he means by communication, namely if a person is not willing to let go of his personal opinions, he cannot have the truth: “Truth, by enabling men and women to let go of their subjective opinions and impressions, allows them to move beyond cultural and historical limitations and to come together in the assessment of the value and substance of things” (§4). Without such a sharing with others there is no truth, for man is isolated in his “subjective opinions.” (Fr. Scott, "HUMANIST MANIFESTO: A commentary on the encyclical Caritas in veritate")

I have suggested in the past that those who seek to know the origin of Benedict's (and many other bishops', particularly Cardinal Kasper) foreign concept of "dialogue" must look to the writings of hasidic philosopher Martin Buber (and the Bal Shem Tov and other kabbalists Buber's thinking was derived from), who Benedict and Kasper have both plainly said is a major influence.

see:

Benedict XVI: Dialogue With the People of the Talmud a "Sacred Duty"

Walter Kasper's Mentor: Hassidic Philosopher, Martin Buber

The Dialogical Path Towards Disaster

The Gospel tells us Jesus taught as one having authority. The Truths of Jesus' teachings weren't arrived at through 'dialogue' with Pharisees as a means of "moving beyond cultural and historical limitations." Neither do we see such an example in the Apostles or the Church fathers. Benedict is preaching an anti-Gospel. He's claiming a "sacred" mandate to get us seated at the table with the lawyers so that they can defraud us with their word magic. There is no example for "sacred dialogue" in the Church canon. Beware these hasidic teachings of Benedict XVI. They lead to ruin.

Pope's "Prophesy"

Any system based in fraud is destined for collapse. It's no prophesy to say this. It's a statement of fact. The pope and the rabbis' "Judeo-Catholic relations" racket, which is based in massive fraud, will collapse just as surely as the fraud-based world economy.

Pope Had `Prophecy' of Market Collapse in 1985, Tremonti Says

Jerusalem Bishop "Dialogues" with "Religion of Peace" Swindler Riskin

Orthodox Chief Rabbi Meets with Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem

JERUSALEM, ISRAEL - Chief Rabbi of Efrat, Shlomo Riskin, met with Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem Fouad Twal for the first time since the Archbishop took the position in June of this year. Rabbi Riskin congratulated the Latin Patriarch on his new appointment and expressed the Jewish community's willingness to work with Catholic Church to foster better relations between the faiths to "promote a religion of peace."

Archbishop Twal expressed his delight that Rabbi Riskin opened the first Orthodox Jewish center to theologically dialogue with Christians and is looking forward in exploring ways that both Judaism and Christianity can work together.

full article:

http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2008/01/who-says-judaism-isnt-proselytizing.html

What is this "religion of peace" that Rabbi Riskin is promoting? Don't expect this beguiling rabbi of lying Orthodox Judaism to say so forthrightly to the "goyim." To answer this question we must turn to Riskin's message to his fellow "Jews" which is not intended for "goys" to read. See:

Who Says Judaism Isn't a Proselytizing System?

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Benedict XVI: Dialogue With the People of the Talmud a "Sacred Duty"

Benedict is preaching an anti-Gospel here. Christians have a sacred duty to evangelize. There is no sacred duty to "dialogue." Benedict has drawn this idea of a "sacred duty" of intereligious "dialogue" not from any Christian text but from the Summa Nonsensica of the Hasidic psuedo-philosopher, Martin Buber who Benedict values more than the philosopher of the Church, St. Thomas.

Here is where the Hasidic path of "dialogue" leads:

The Dialogical Path Towards Disaster

True Christians do not share a spiritual patrimony with Pharisees as Benedict once again proclaims here. Jesus Christ said the Pharisees' spiritual father is the father of lies, the Devil. Benedict, like Martin Buber and the Bal Shem Tov who he modeled, is attempting to conjoin irreconcilable opposites into a pagan, yin yang microcosm of the pagan yin yang god of Judaism:

"The indwelling Glory [of god] embraces all worlds, all creatures, good and evil. And it is the true Unity. How then, you ask, can it bear in itself the opposites of good and evil? But in truth there is no opposite, for Evil is the throne of Good." (Martin Buber, Hasidism and Modern Man, p. 200)

"We then found the philosophy of personalism reiterated with renewed conviction in the great Jewish thinker Martin Buber. This encounter with personalism was for me a spiritual experience that left an essential mark, especially since I spontaneously associated such personalism with the thought of Saint Augustine, who in his Confessions had struck me with the power of all his human passion and depth. By contrast, I had difficulties in penetrating the thought of Thomas Aquinas, whose crystal-clear logic seemed to me to be too closed in on itself, too impersonal and ready-made." (Benedict XVI, Milestones, p.44)

Pope Calls Dialogue a Sacred Duty

Notes Advances in Jewish-Catholic Relations

VATICAN CITY, OCT. 30, 2008 (Zenit.org).- Benedict XVI says interreligious dialogue is becoming more and more a sacred duty in a troubled world.

The Pope affirmed this today when he addressed the International Jewish Committee on Interreligious Consultations, a group that has worked with the Holy See for more than 30 years, contributing to "greater understanding and acceptance between Catholics and Jews."

"Christians today are increasingly conscious of the spiritual patrimony they share with the people of the Torah, the people chosen by God in his inexpressible mercy, a patrimony that calls for greater mutual appreciation, respect and love," the Holy Father said. "Jews too are challenged to discover what they have in common with all who believe in the Lord, the God of Israel, who first revealed himself through his powerful and life-giving word."

That word, he continued, "spurs us to bear common witness to God’s love, mercy and truth. This is a vital service in our own time, threatened by the loss of the spiritual and moral values which guarantee human dignity, solidarity, justice and peace."

Benedict XVI encouraged the committee in their efforts to foster dialogue between religions.

"In our troubled world, so frequently marked by poverty, violence and exploitation, dialogue between cultures and religions must more and more be seen as a sacred duty incumbent upon all those who are committed to building a world worthy of man," he said. "The ability to accept and respect one another, and to speak the truth in love, is essential for overcoming differences, preventing misunderstandings and avoiding needless confrontations. […] A sincere dialogue needs both openness and a firm sense of identity on both sides, in order for each to be enriched by the gifts of the other."

The Holy Father said he thanks God for recent meetings he has had with Jewish communities in New York, Paris and the Vatican, "and for the progress in Catholic-Jewish relations which they reflect."

"In this spirit, then," he concluded, "I encourage you to persevere in your important work with patience and renewed commitment."

Next month in Hungary, the International Jewish Committee on Interreligious Consultations will meet with the Vatican Commission for Religious Relations With the Jews on the theme "Religion and Civil Society."

http://www.zenit.org/rssenglish-24118

Rabbis and Kosher-Catholic Priests in Pilpul

Pilpul, simply put, is a rabbinic dialectical process of "debate" or discussion by which a predetermined outcome is arrived at. It's the Pharisaic tradition which Jesus Christ condemned calling it a "tradition of men" which "makes void the word of God." Both the Jerusalem and Babylonian Talmuds are filled with pilpul which in most cases is for the purpose of circumventing Biblical law. The article below tells of rabbis and kosher-Catholic priests engaged in pilul for the purpose of circumventing the Gospel which condemns the very act they are engaged in. See Mark 7;13 for Christ's condemnation and Mishnah tractate Nedarim for the pilpul through which the "corban" that Christ condemned in Mark 7;13 was synthesized. And note that Jesus did not only condemn the Pharisaic "corban" invention and ritual hand washing, but He said, "many other such like things you [Pharisees] do."

Believe me when I tell you, in this "Judeo-Christian dialogue"--what is in reality pilpul--the rabbis aren't interested in hearing the Gospel. They're interested in finding ways around the Gospel, like their Pharisaic ideological forefathers found ways around Old Testament law. They intend to make the Gospel of none effect.

... if there were a transcript of the proceedings it would read very much like a discussion in the Talmud.

Rabbis and Catholic priests in dialogue

By Mark L. Shook - St. Louis Post Dispatch

June 19, 2008

The Vatican has taken great pains to define and structure religious dialogues between faith communities. As recently as June 7, Pope Benedict II spoke to the Pontifical Council for Inter-religious Dialogue of “the importance of truth being the goal of all dialogue and charity being the motivation behind all dialogue.” The content of the council’s meeting and the Pope’s statement seem to imply that religious dialogue is in need of guidelines to keep Catholic participants true to Church doctrine. But very few inter-faith dialogues deal with matters of deep theological import. Most are simply efforts to establish rapport and understanding.

Religious dialogues succeed or fail because of trust and respect. Achieving trust and respect takes time and dedication. Here is yet another example of a process which does not respond well to our need for instant gratification. Rabbis and priests in St. Louis have been in dialogue with each other for more than ten years. That dialogue would never have gotten off the ground had it not been for the personal bonds of friendship which existed between Father Vincent Heier, former Ecumenical officer of the St. Louis Archdiocese, and the late Rabbi Robert P. Jacobs, in his capacity as Executive Vice-president of the St. Louis Rabbinical Association. The two of them set out to create an atmosphere of dialogue which was faithful to the aspirations of the Vatican II process of reconciliation between Jews and Catholics.

We are still going strong. Every other month, a group of about twelve dialogue participants sit down to a kosher lunch provided by an anonymous donor, and over corned beef and turkey, hold a free-wheeling discussion. Sometimes the topics touch on clergy politics, i.e., “How do rabbis/priests get assigned to congregations? At other sessions, the news of the day may form the subject matter. For the most part the dialogue centers around an agreed upon topic with readings sent out in advance. Several sessions were devoted to a careful reading of Pope Benedict’s book, Jesus of Nazareth. Most recently the group studied fundamental documents of belief of the various expressions of Judaism, from Maimonides Thirteen Principles of Judaism to the latest platform of Reform Judaism. No question or comment is ever treated as off the subject. In fact, if there were a transcript of the proceedings it would read very much like a discussion in the Talmud.

Dialogue participants do not sugar-coat their questions or their responses. With the presence of Reform, Conservative and Orthodox rabbis, there is sometimes more intra-Jewish heat generated than heat between Jews and Catholics. Along the way there is significant learning and teaching which takes place. Our priests come to appreciate the wide range of Jewish responses to religious and moral questions of the day and our rabbis develop a more nuanced understanding of how the Church works in developing its teachings and public positions.

Just for the record, no one in these dialogues has converted anyone. Both sides remain true to their faith. What really takes place is a sorting out of real and imaginary differences. Not all or even most of the real differences can be bridged. The sages of Judaism believed that theological conflicts among rabbis were like sparks striking steel and resulted in illumination. I would include this image as a worthy description of true dialogues between persons of all faiths. For each participant there is a strengthening of faith.

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/civil-religion/catholic/2008/06/rabbis-and-catholic-priests-in-dialogue/

St. Vincent Ferrer

St. Vincent Ferrer's feast day is April 5. As one of the Church's greatest missionaries he converted tens of thousands of Sephardic Judaics from vain Talmudic and Kabbalistic self-worship to salvation in Jesus Christ. He knew nothing of "dialogue" and "reconciliation" with "elder brothers," theological schemes which put off missions to the Khazars and Sephardim instead waiting for an end-times mass conversion, or Cardinal Schönborn's latest--the idea that Christ's great commission to preach to all nations did not apply to Jews:

Judaism’s way to salvation, by Cardinal Christoph Schönborn


I take it that Schönborn would have us believe Christ's great commission to preach to all nations did not apply to the Khazar and Sephardi nations--today's "Jews"--by virtue of their future conversion to the anti-Christ Talmud. How else can these strange theological inventions be understood?